• http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1420324301 RT Long on Facebook

    Yes. I agree. It would be about who signed and Drafted the best. Not who spends the most.

    Having said that, there are small market teams who do pretty well under the current system. The Royals don’t because the front office sucks and has sucked for years.

  • http://travis.pflanz.me Travis Pflanz

    I am NOT in favor of a salary cap at all. In fact, I would argue that the salary cap does NOT work in the NFL.

    So many NFL players have their careers cut short because teams cut a veteran player simply because they make too much money.

    One of the things I like the best about MLB is the fact there is such a perceived disparity between top and bottom. A cap isn’t going to force bottom teams to pay more, it will simply force top teams to develop their own players, along with signing the top players… Instead of trading away all of their potential talent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1420324301 RT Long on Facebook

    :)

  • troyolsen

    I am in favor of a Cap  AND a floor the way the NFL does. You keep guaranteed money and that fixes Travis’s fears about veterans getting cut.

    Problem is the players union will NEVER adopt a Cap and they don’t care what fans want.

  • http://kory-carpenter.blogspot.com Kory Carpenter

    I talked about this a little here: http://crowncrazed.com/2012/why-baseballs-money-problem-isnt-a-problem-at-all

    The “fair” system in the NFL isn’t helping the Lions, Browns, Bill, Dolphins, etc. sustain success because those organizations are run very well. Money isn’t the issue. And in baseball, having a big payroll hasn’t helped the Mets win any World Series lately. Or the Brewers or Cubs. And it hasn’t kept the Rays ($64 million payroll) from being competitive every year.

    And even if none of those were true, baseball has no incentive for things to be “fair.” World Series tv ratings are great when big market teams are playing. When it’s small market teams, no one watches. That’s why the NFL can get away with it because everyone loves the NFL and watches every game. Baseball makes money when the Yankees, Red Sox and Angels are good.

  • http://kory-carpenter.blogspot.com Kory Carpenter

    Those organizations *Aren’t* run very well.

  • troyolsen

    Kory it does make a difference though if you prevent a team like NY or Boston from spending 140 Mil (or whatever it is) every year because then they can’t buy through their mistakes. The brewers had one of their best seasons ever last year after spending a ton of money but couldnt keep going with that kind of expense.

    The WS argument will lead to a league where there are 6-8 legit teams another 6-8 that once in a while surprise and the the other 12-18 always in the basement and teams like KC, Oak etc can draw their 10k fans and never be anything.  Not what I want to become of the sport.

  • Michael Urriola

    Troy just hit the nail on the head.

  • http://kory-carpenter.blogspot.com Kory Carpenter

    Troy, a few things:

    1) What does MLB stand to gain, though? The numbers clearly show that big market teams generate more interest and money. That’s the fans directly telling Baseball that. If it was more profitable to have a Cap, they would have one already. If as a business, you see positive numbers when certain cities are playing and less than stellar numbers when others play, what incentive do you have to

    2) While teams like the Yankees are usually the first team brought up in this argument, they’ve A) won as many World Series the last decade as the Marlins and B) They never get credit for having a really good farm system. Off the top of my head, the following players were homegrown and either play(ed) in New York or were traded while in the minors: Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Robinson Cano, Alfonso Soriano, Andy Pettite, Bernie Williams, and a more thorough search would probably find many more. Without Jeter, Pettitte, Rivera and Williams, they don’t win those titles in the late 90’s and 2009.

    3) There’s nothing stopping a team from raising the payroll. The Tigers, for one example, have slowly raised their payroll by $70 million since 2005. The Rangers have increased their payroll from $55 million to $120 million in that span. The Brewers went from $39 to $97. It happens a lot.

  • Michael Urriola

    1) Shouldn’t Major League Baseball be about the fans and not the unions and owners.

    2) The Yankee’s would have not even been in the playoffs without their big money free agents like CC, Texaira, Alex Rodriguez, and Curtis Granderson.

    3) The only reason those teams payrolls got bigger was because they are one of the few low payroll teams that play their cards right and build a great farm system. Meanwhile big payroll teams can just build a farm system and higher the players from low payroll teams that actually play good. Then those teams that finally make it big, are left in the dust and they have to hope they can build another great farm system.

     

  • http://kory-carpenter.blogspot.com Kory Carpenter

    1) They should, but first and foremost, MLB is a business just like any other business and making money is and should be at the top. And I wouldn’t say they aren’t being about the fans. They’re just catering to the majority because your average fan isn’t interested in small market teams and big market teams have more fans. If Americans watched Kansas City and St. Louis and Tampa Bay games as often as New York and LA games, there would probably be a Cap.

    2) Every sport’s champions need and have superstars. The Mavericks won with Dirk, the Lakers with Kobe, the Heat with Wade, Spurs with Duncan, Pats and Colts with Brady and Manning, etc. Every great team in every sport has great players. I was just pointing out that the Yankees develop their players as well as or better than a lot of other teams.

    3) I’m not saying big market teams don’t have built in advantages, they obviously do. But organizations that are run well succeed and those that aren’t fail, in every sport. The Lakers and Spurs have won 9 of the last 13 NBA titles with a Cap, where’s the outcry here?

    Nice article by the way, I always love this discussion.

  • Michael Urriola

    Thank you, I appreciate your opinions. Looks like neither of us will change our minds.